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Comments on: Interesting times… https://www.didyoulearnanything.net/blog/2011/01/25/interesting-times/ An archived blog about education, language, peace, and other fine things Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:09:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.1 By: Michael Sappir https://www.didyoulearnanything.net/blog/2011/01/25/interesting-times/#comment-149 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:07:31 +0000 http://www.didyoulearnanything.net/?p=1157#comment-149 In reply to radagaisus.

Take a deep breath. I don’t get what’s wrong.
The point, as I take it, is that mere peace is not the end-goal, because there are many ways to reach “peace”, as the piece points out. The goal is a solution in which both sides are more or less satisfied with the situation. The reason we don’t have peace isn’t that there hasn’t been a peace agreement — many countries live in peace without ever having needed an agreement. The reason we don’t have peace is that on both sides, people feel their rights and/or dignity (individually and/or as a people) are not respected.

As for what you say about 972 Mag, would you mind elaborating and providing information that could prove they lied? From where I stand, with the very limited information I have, it’s hard to tell, and if I have to choose between a source that occasionally makes a mistake or even includes false information and a source that talks of soldiers “returning fire” at an old man getting out of bed, well, I’ll choose the first, in a heartbeat, every time. And the fact that the IDF is not only responsible for cases like that but embellishes them with that kind of language is much more disturbing than people on the internet being wrong or outright lying. And much more depressing.
Let me be clear: it’s not that I refuse to believe you or that it doesn’t bother me if 972 occasionally lie. It’s just that the official sources, not to mention the right wing, are clearly even worse, so I use what sources are left. And you’d be doing everyone a favor if you would call out the 972 folk for their lies and substantiate your claims with evidence of some sort. Please do that, if you can.

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By: radagaisus https://www.didyoulearnanything.net/blog/2011/01/25/interesting-times/#comment-148 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:45:00 +0000 http://www.didyoulearnanything.net/?p=1157#comment-148 About the last piece, are you for real? I have no words. I just can’t start writing it angers me so much, this is ridiculous. Wow.

מה הקטע? כאילו, שלום לא אומר שהכיבוש יגמר? מה זה החרא הזה? מה זה המאמר המטומטם הזה? אני פשוט לא מבין.

וגם, ה972 מגזין האלו הם חבורה של שקרנים. תפסתי אותם (גורביץ’, כן כן, ואת ג’וזף דנה וליסה גודלמן) על שקרים גדולים כבר שלוש פעמים. באמת, חבורה של שקרנים, זה מזעזע אותי שהם מוכנים לשקר ככה בשביל המטרה שלהם. ומדכא.

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By: Annals of the robot Internet: Michael Sappir, Hamas copywriter | Did you learn anything? https://www.didyoulearnanything.net/blog/2011/01/25/interesting-times/#comment-146 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:06:08 +0000 http://www.didyoulearnanything.net/?p=1157#comment-146 […] one of my posts yesterday was about topics related to Hamas and since I apply an excessive amount of tags, which Feedburner […]

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